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Title: perosis
Post by: Suki on July 10, 2015, 04:06:09 PM
Someone on FB posted about perosis.  I have never experienced it but it seems to be a vitamin takeup issue.  Anyone have experience with it here?


http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/6/diseases-of-poultry/220/slipped-tendon-perosis/
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: Mike Gilbert on July 10, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
Which is another reason I believe in feeding a scientifically balanced commercial starter feed - it has, or should have, all the necessary nutrients and vitamins that chicks need.     I suppose it is possible there have been cases of perosis that were misdiagnosed as Marek's disease, because the apparent symptoms can be very similar.
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: Suki on July 10, 2015, 11:16:47 PM
A lot of people these days are going to fodder for all their chickens needs. 

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2014/02/sprouting-grains-for-chickens-fodder.html
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: John W Blehm on July 10, 2015, 11:42:26 PM
Years ago my nephew had pheasant chicks with it.  I have a Salsbury Manual of Poultry Diseases and could tell that is what it was.  I asked what he was feeding them and he said chick starter.  He didn't know they needed a game bird starter and the problem went away once he switched to the proper feed.
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: The Malcolms on July 11, 2015, 11:33:21 AM
We have 1 bird ( a 10 week old pullet) with similar symptoms.  We were concerned about Marek's but we have no other sick birds out of 150 or so.  Can you have just 1 bird with Marek's?  Maybe it is something like this or a genetic mutation prohibiting vitamin uptake?
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: John W Blehm on July 11, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
We have 1 bird ( a 10 week old pullet) with similar symptoms.  We were concerned about Marek's but we have no other sick birds out of 150 or so.  Can you have just 1 bird with Marek's?  Maybe it is something like this or a genetic mutation prohibiting vitamin uptake?

Yes, I would guess Marek's over Perosis if all the birds are on the same feed/conditions and only one to several out of 150 birds show those symptoms.
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: Suki on January 02, 2016, 06:35:34 PM
Recently, from the library discard sale, I got a book published in the UK on Poultry Diseases.  On Perosis it says: 


--------------------------- Osteopetrosis (Thick Leg Disease; Osteodystrophia Fibrosa).The virus causing this condition appears to be related to that causing lymphoid leucosis. Itis characterized by increased osteoblastic activity in birds about 2 - 3 months old and is more common in the male than in the female. The long bones of the extre­mities, especially the metatarsi, are thickened, deformed, and take on a boot-like appearance, which is characteristic of the disease (Fig. 5). The affected portions are hot and insensitive. The disease is slowly progressive and ends fatally in about two months . It is transmitted from chicken to chicken and / or from turkey to  chicken.The lesions can be distinguished from those of rickets because the bone is defor­med without thickening, whilst in rickets the keel bone is often bent).  In perosis there is also a twisting and flattening of the hock joint.


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Title: Re: perosis
Post by: Mike Gilbert on January 02, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
I don't believe I ever have seen an affected bird.  Guess I've been fortunate. 
Title: Re: perosis
Post by: Suki on April 19, 2016, 08:47:49 PM
I ran into this again....seems it happened in Northwestern states/Western Canada because they use they used dolomitic limestone instead of Oyster Shell for calcium for hens.  It can also happen if you give birds a lot of epsom salts -- another high in magnesium product.