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The Official Ameraucana Forum => Breeding => Topic started by: John W Blehm on April 14, 2015, 09:09:23 PM
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This subject is covered in my Ameraucana Chickens book (https://www.cacklehatchery.com/product/ameraucana-chickens/).
John W Blehm
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Wow, John you sure do get some unusual chicks hatching at your place lol..
Whatever happened to the 4 legged chick?
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That was in 2012 Whatever happened to the 4 legged chick?
That's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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Goodness, John! :o Is this a Michigan (PBB) thing? Kind of interesting, though ...
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Ever since that nuclear reactor next to John's place exploded . . . . ;D
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John, can you think of anything in the development of these birds that had feathered legs? I have seen it on other chicks of several breeds, so always assumed it was a minor mutation.
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I've noticed most of these aberrations occur here when eggs are saved for hatching during cold weather. This year I have had a number of chicks from my bantam Dark Brahma pair where the outer two toes are fused together. The adult pair have perfectly normal toes, but they are related. I guess these chicks wanted to be ducks! Click on the photos to enlarge them.
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I am truly rolling on the floor over here ;D between mo Hawks and fusion I am cracking up. I also liked reminiscing over the past oddities as well
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I've noticed most of these aberrations occur...
... at John's house. I believe I'll bring bottled water to Fowl Fest! ;D
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I have never seen or heard of this before. This chick hatched with no eyes! :o :o :o
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I had one a long time ago. It also had a crossed beak.
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He or she will be easy to catch ;D
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That is the coolest and yet weirdest thing ever. Are you going to let it live? Be interesting to see how long it lasts.
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I have never seen or heard of this before. This chick hatched with no eyes! :o :o :o
I knew I'd seen that condition before and searched thru my photos. The one I found was in 2011, a Chantecler without eyes and a shortened upper beak. Strange how some of the same oddities pop up.
While searching I also found a photo of a chick with bulgy eyes from 2013.
i had a chick hatch with bulging eyes a couple of months ago. Unfortunatelty it was a male do to my auto sex mating, I culled it due to space and me not needing males.
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Unfortunatelty it was a male do to my auto sex mating, I culled it due to space and me not needing males.
I'm not familiar with the bulging eyes but I've heard that chicks born without eyes usually have brain damage and are unlikely to survive. I don't remember if I culled mine or if it expired on it's own first.
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I didn't take photos, but years ago, in the dead of winter, I had couple of albino chicks hatch. Their eyes were almost a glowing red. Apparently they could not see to eat or drink, because they both died within a few days after hatching.
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Three years ago I hatched a four legged, four winged chick with no vent. Almost certain it came from a double yolker.
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/steveniggemann/10533875_10154403548300473_7487233377884282421_o_zpsc2lrd6nf.jpeg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/steveniggemann/media/10533875_10154403548300473_7487233377884282421_o_zpsc2lrd6nf.jpeg.html)
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These examples illustrate how mutations, the only possible means of progressive evolution, are nearly always not beneficial, but detrimental instead. While micro-evolution can explain things like feathered legs, crests, different comb types, different plumage coloration, etc., it could never explain how life began or how a single celled organism could develop into a bird or animal, much less a human being, because major mutations are nearly always fatal. After all these changes within the species, we still have chickens, not something else.
Nor can it explain how one "kind" evolves into another "kind," e.g., a reptile turning into a bird or a rabbit turning into a dog. While we have many extinct species, there are no intermediate forms in the fossil record - according the head curator of the largest fossil collection in the world at the British Museum of Natural History. The latter is called macro-evolution, the fairy tale for adults (in my opinion) that started with Darwin and has led to countless negative socio-economic consequences. Hitler, for example, was highly influenced by Darwinian theory and so was Margaret Sanger. Having studied this issue for about the last 30-40 years I came to the conclusion that it takes much more faith to believe in macro-evolution than it does to believe in intelligent design by a creator, the supreme being we call God. And I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
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Mike, that reminds me of my 4th grade science teacher, who taught adaptation as opposed to evolution. He made it clear he believed in creation, but acknowledged that there have been changes over time: it's unlikely Adam stood 6'2" and the animals we know today probably bear little resemblance to the animals of his time, but a fish is still a fish and a human is still a human. I always thought that was a pretty reasonable explanation.
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Mike, that reminds me of my 4th grade science teacher, who taught adaptation as opposed to evolution. He made it clear he believed in creation, but acknowledged that there have been changes over time: it's unlikely Adam stood 6'2" and the animals we know today probably bear little resemblance to the animals of his time, but a fish is still a fish and a human is still a human. I always thought that was a pretty reasonable explanation.
Since Adam and Eve were created before all the mutations occurred, they were probably bigger, stronger, smarter, and a lot more healthy than we are today. And they sure lived and reproduced a whole lot longer. It is one of the laws of thermodynamics that the earth and what is in it is running down. I guess you could call that reverse evolution, or devolution. In case anyone is interested in the science behind this, I will just refer them to the many articles and information available at the website of: www.answersingenesis.org . At their home page, click on the Answers link and choose the particular subject that interests you most.
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OMG that egg looks like a giant sperm but love it's blue color!
The wierdest I got was my crooked toe paint sizzle (said to be a genetic defect or non-balanced heat and humidity in incubator) and my silkies that have that one short,underdeveloped toes. I only hatched two clutches of my ameraucana just to make sure my incubator was working (otherwise I wouldn't breed them, especially now since I prefer the little guys) and none of them that hatched(only three) had any oddities. I only get the wierdo's in my silkie and sizzles. but I don't judge the wierdos, as long as they can eat, drink, sleep, breathe, and run and mostly "live" I'm fine just write them down as NO BREEDING.
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I had a membrane covered egg earlier this month from a large fowl brown red. But it was a clear membrane, or transluscent is probably a better description. But I've never seen a green covering over a blue egg before. That is odd.