I hear Kraig Shafer had beautiful white sat the Ohio National today, he won our nat'l last month, so he's on my short list...but it was Jan Geis who took Best of Breed with her Black boy, haven't heard from anyone more than that...unfortunately the turnout for the APA show was only 6600 while for Indianapolis it was 16K. Still word is that the Indy show went bankrupt so I guess that's why they didn't bid for next year.