Thanks Mike. Never thought of a magnifying glass. I usually just go by feel and aim for "smoothness" figuring that is enough. I can see that if you work outdoors alot that would not necessarily work. Men also have rougher hands than women so that would also be problematic in _feel_ checking. I have some have very rough and dimply shells and I've attributed that to calcium uptake and not necessarily genetics, but by tossing those rough eggs out, I guess I've already done some selection to prevent their reocurrence down the line. But also as incubation continue, don't eggs naturally get more porous?